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Posted by Martin Williams on June 12, 2008 3:21 PM | 

THE most frustrating thing about being news editor of the Visitor is that we come out a day after our ‘competition’.
We are first with the exclusives, but sometimes even they manage to stumble over a decent front page.
Huge stories that break before a Tuesday are usually snapped-up by the opposition and used in some way.
Yet more often than not we’ll have a selection of articles (see this week’s new-look edition for example) to choose from, stories we know they haven’t touched.
So imagine my surprise when I saw last week’s ‘splash’ on their front page: MARKS & SPARKS FOR PRESTATYN
Great news for the town, granted.
However, the Visitor ran that same front page in July 2007!
Mayor Ann Horobin and town councillor Gerry Frobisher obviously don’t remember it either, as they’re quoted as welcoming the development.
Their news team did exactly the same thing a few months ago, a week after we revealed the Pavilion Theatre in Rhyl was under threat.
And the sub-editors must have ran out of ideas because they used a carbon copy of our headline: THE FINAL CURTAIN.
I’m not being facetious, but if we don’t pull them up on it, who will?
When our ‘rivals’ last beat us to a story (I believe it was a tale about hell freezing over) we held our hands up in the Rhyl office and gave them credit. When we make a mistake we apologise for it, and we all make mistakes, we're only human.
Stick with us, we’ll keep you informed of what’s going on in the area, and we won’t do it 12 months from now.

Comments (10)

Bolly wrote...

We'll hold you to that.......I thought I'd read it somewhere before!

Posted by: Bolly  | June 12, 2008 4:25 PM

Jenny Scott wrote...

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!

Posted by: Jenny Scott  | June 12, 2008 4:55 PM

Bert Palooka wrote...

It is not the case of who gets there first, rather a case of who gets there, stays there, and does some damn fine work there. You guys tick all those boxes and more.

Reading your paper online makes me feel like I have recently visited Rhyl and stayed with my aunty Edna and uncle Jim. Who then give a brilliant blow-by-blow account of all the local news. That is how good you guys have this area covered, and long may you cover it. As long as the sun is in the sky and the dew is glistening on her valley my girlfriend and I will visit this site, in lieu of visiting Wales.

Posted by: Bert Palooka  | June 12, 2008 5:34 PM

Paul Jones wrote...

I wouldn't worry, the general consensus amongst Rhyl towns-people is that The Visitor IS the local newspaper. The Journal has been going downhill reporting secondhand, redundant or useless news for the past 15yrs and doesn't look like improving anytime soon.

Posted by: Paul Jones  | June 12, 2008 7:26 PM

Bill Martins wrote...

You come across as very disrespectful to other newspapers in this blog Martin. As a reader, I have to say the Visitor has a far from perfect track record for getting things correct. The year of the Towyn floods was continually wrong in one edition for example and there was a reference to the 'Five Nations' in another.

Martin says: It's not disrespectful at all.
Do you not think it's disrespectful to take credit for the hard work of others and pass it off as your own?
We all make mistakes, and when me make them we apologise and hold our hands up.

Posted by: Bill Martins  | June 13, 2008 1:21 PM

Terry Foster gtr Vox [Homespun] wrote...

Here's a word from the youth and music scene, and young people in Rhyl!
1. the Visitor is the only paper that has supported live music and arts!
2. the journal pull music and news pages for ADVERTISING! its a joke around here, and since S.Rastin left for those very reasons i bin it when it comes through the door. the journal is an advert rag that usualy has all ads no news, my ex Gf worked there in ads department and said its run like a girls club for hair,nails, and selling ads. i do not know one person that reads or rates the journal.
3. The Visitor has gone from strength to strength and the new writers & editors etc are clearly on the ball, there is a feel in the stories that you are on the same level as the author. David Rutland and Martin Williams are 2 great examples. it's the only real local paper we have in Rhyl.
just incase thats not clear enough,
The Journal should be closed as a useless rag run on local advertising money, and for the record I really enjoyed this weeks new-look Visitor.

Posted by: Terry Foster gtr Vox [Homespun]  | June 13, 2008 2:38 PM

Laura Jones wrote...

Martin said in that post
Do you not think it's disrespectful to take credit for the hard work of others and pass it off as your own?
I'm a big Duffy fan and on the front page of the Visitor it says hes been talking exclusively to Duffy.
I was well excited to go and read it but the same interview is on the Rhyl Journal website. Do you write for the Journal too? I'm confused!?!?!?!

Martin: Our interview should not be the same as the Journal's, and if it is then it has been lifted. Part of the interview was syndicated, but a large part of the Visitor's is made up of North Wales-based questions asked by myself. So if they've been used by other sources then the answer is yes. It happens sometimes, and if you have any other questions feel free to call me direct on 01745 345889.
If the Journal had the Exclusive Duffy interview then I'm sure they'd have used it in their newspaper - but they didn't.

Posted by: Laura Jones  | June 13, 2008 4:43 PM

Neil Crud wrote...

Top marks for the paper - all it's really missing is a decent Your Time section, featuring articles on the local music scene written by someone with a good knowledge on the area's bands.
Can't think of anyone, can you? :)

Martin - I don't know Neil, can you suggest anyone? :)
Sounds good to me, I'll be in touch.

Posted by: Neil Crud  | June 13, 2008 8:02 PM

Fairs Fair wrote...

They both provide us with news for free, so fair play to both papers.

Posted by: Fairs Fair  | June 16, 2008 1:26 PM

DAVID WILLIAMS wrote...

I am enjoying the Visitor more and more these days and hate it when the Estate Agents take over at p20-odd. The Journal continues to have the look of a paper that has had its day. It was nice to see the name Neil Crud in print again. Has he been cloned, or is it the original? From his comments, it looks like he's after the job himself! Don't think I could handle reviews of the comebacks of some of the bands Neil favoured 30 years ago. All that bad hair!!

Posted by: DAVID WILLIAMS  | June 17, 2008 9:53 AM

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